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  The clown factory at Warwick

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just amazes me how the clown factory at the borgs basilica in warwick could produce 8 clown popes that act like self-licking ice cream cones and the jdubs take them so seriously.

  if the popes said that they were going to have a bible signing session at a king dumb hall 8 hours away that so many jdubs would make the trip the town would be swamped with traffic.. you know what is truly sad is when during jdub public prayers, the governing body gets more praise than the head of the congregation.

  all jesus gets is the final "in jesus name.".

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  Kudos on "clown factory"!

  I think that in addition to self-licking there may also be some mutual licking going on too. You know those Bethel Boys!
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  Is there a Will..?

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have begun to update my will.. for some who have very severe divisions in family it would be a good idea to avoid orgs or undesirable relatives claiming part of your estate and more to the point making sure it goes to what or who you wish it too.. live long and prosper in wisdom..

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  ANYONE can jump off their roof, too, but that doesn't mean they'll be delighted with the outcome.

  Get the assistance of a lawyer who specializes in wills and Estate Planning, and tell them why you want your will to be titanium-reinforced kevlar. Be honest with them.

  On the other hand, you might be able to get The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society to help you write a will for free.
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  Someone had been attempting to destroy Kingdom Halls in Thurston county washington state.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. social
  2. current

  and has finally succeeded in burning one to the ground.

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  I think we need to protect the identity of the arsonist so that we don't make Jehovah look bad.

  Isn't that how the song goes?

  ...and if Jehovah has not struck the arsonist with Divine Justice within a period of seven years, isn't that a sign that Jehovah has forgiven him? (I say "him" only because statistically arsonist are more likely to be former Boy Scouts who grew too attached to their Campfire Merit Badges. For all I know the arsonist could be a woman or a pangolin who self-identifies as an emu. I'm not here to judge.)

  Leave it in Jehovah's hands, I say! Keep the secular authorities OUT OF IT.

  Hey Bud, got a light?
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  Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sneakily read his books at work.

  it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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  ...OK, truth be told, I have scanned some sections of the book, but Ray Franz is not my "spiritual father" -- that honor goes to my good friend and confidant Willis C. and to Barbra G. Harrison, in a sense.
  
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  Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sneakily read his books at work.

  it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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  Ha ha Ha!

  Ray wrote CoC in 1983, at least five years AFTER I found out that a pedophile in the Middle Village Queens NY congregation was being PROTECTED by our lily-livered "elders."

  I don't owe Ray SQUAT. Furthermore, he maintained that he knew NOTHING about a pedophile problem in the WTB&TS. Was he ignorant, naive, or a liar? That's above my pay grade, as they say.

  To this day I have not read CoC cover-to-cover because i doubt it has anything in it that would influence my choices.
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  Leaders or liars

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

  you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

  (not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

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  Don't worry, ZNMD, proceed at the speed that suits YOU.

  This is a no-pressure kind of place; almost everyone here is 'recovering' or is very close to someone who is.

  Also be comfortable knowing that this site doesn't try to cram you into a box and say, in effect, "Now that you've left the JWs, you MUST become a member of my cult!" so here you will find JWs who became Bible Students, JWs who became Catholics, JWs who became Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan,... you name it, we probably have one, even (whispering) Atheists!

  All are welcome and no collection is taken! Sound familiar?
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  Leaders or liars

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

  you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

  (not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

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  First, ZNMD, as one who was a regular pioneer (in NYC), I have to sincerely commend you on your personal performance when you were pioneering.

  YES, looking back we know that we were duped and that the WTB&TS is a steaming pile of stinking horse crap, but in context, you took a job (so to speak) and YOU DID IT. If we were looking at a Bell Curve of pioneer performance for any category, YOU would be well over on the right side beyond the median, while _I_ would have been far to the left, anchoring the base of the curve.

  In Real Life I was more like you, job performance wise. I'm interested in hearing more of your story. Where did you pioneer? Are you an XJW now? How did you get out? What was your "exit experience" like? How are you doing now?

  I look forward to more posts from you, but not four at a time.
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.

  once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.

  should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?

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  "Kids are different today"

  I hear ev'ry dubber say

  Dubbers need something today to calm 'em down

  And though 'e's not really ill

  There's a little scarlet pill

  'e goes running for the shelter of a dubber's little helper

  And it helps 'im on 'is way, gets 'im through 'is busy day...
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  Comedy

  by caves in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

  do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

  https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

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  I prefer to watch comedians from the luxurious comfort of my La-Z-Boy recliner*, but that is a personal choice, as the Scripture is silent on this matter.

  *Standing up for a full set just hits me in the knees and low back, as Art Ritus once observed.
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  Should I be with someone who's had lots of pervious partners?

  by Jxvi in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  thanks for reading (i'm sorry this is a little bit of a sensitive topic, though i'll try to be gentle.).

  a little back story.

  i have been working so hard to build my faith this year, and i am finally at the point where i am beginning to trust god and i want to build an unbreakable relationship with him.

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  Sex is just sex, and "social diseases" are just part of the party decorations. Besides, no one lives forever!

  Is your pervious friend honest? Would that friend tell you if she had transmittable STDs?

  Maybe in the heat of lust that doesn't matter to you now, but in two months when fire comes out when you piss, you might find you have a different view.

  On the other hand, maybe you like a nice BBQ'd groin roast?

  Who am I to judge? No one; so I won't. "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law."

  Just be sure to ask only your free-lovin' friends to help with the bandages. I'll be washing my feet that day.